Harrassment 1989> </head> <body>        <h2 align="center">Re: Slip and Fall Article <a href="comingsoon.htm"><font size="4"><Return></font></a></h2> <hr>   <table width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td align="right" valign="top"><strong>To</strong></td> <td align="left"><a href="mailto:Personal-Injury@groupserver.revnet.com">Personal-Injury@groupserver.revnet.com</a> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right" valign="top"><strong>From</strong></td> <td align="left"><a href="mailto:Personal-Injury@groupserver.revnet.com">Personal-Injury@groupserver.revnet.com</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right" valign="top"><strong>Date</strong></td> <td align="left">Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:53:20 -0600</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>   <hr noshade="noshade" size="1">   <pre>__________________________________________________ The Personal Injury Law Forum publisher: <a href="http://prairielaw.com">http://prairielaw.com</a> __________________________________________________ A Message From Our Personal Injury Law Forum Sponsor..... ********************************************************************* Legal Anywhere, an internet/intranet company for the legal profession, at <a href="http://www.legalanywhere.com">http://www.legalanywhere.com</a> where a "turnkey" intranet/extranet allows secure collaboration with clients & outside counsel via a web browser. ********************************************************************* From: P E Keith Vidal <kvidal@cybergate.org> Subject: Re: Slip and Fall Article Mr. Moderator and fellow list members: I feel obligated to submit this final posting on a thread which may have outlived its usefulness, but please allow me to clarify and make some (hopefully final) comments on Mr. Miller's prior posting. <u>Mr. Miller states that "that Mr... Vidal is closely associated with the promotion of a slip resistance device . . . . "</u> <u>I have actually used many testers and I have been a participant in research where many other devices have been used. I have never promoted, nor do I have any commercial interest in the market success of any device. However, I have come to an awareness as to what testers are reliable, and more importantly, which testers are accepted by the scientific community. To ignore certain devices which have been accepted by the scientific community and promote others which are obsolete would be considered "junk science" in most courtrooms. And I am sure that some so called experts may be able to get away with these kind of antics in cases where the opposing expert is less than informed.</u> <u>By the way, the VIT (the device that Mr. Miller ignored in his article in Safety & <b><a href="http://dockets.osha.gov/vg001/V046A/01/31/37.PDF"><font size="4">Link</font></a></b> Health) is the first slipmeter in the history of the world to achieve precision in accordance with ASTM E-691, under both wet and dry conditions. </u> I could go on and on pointing out other misconceptions held by Mr. Miller, but I don't want to bore the list members. My suggestion would be to Mr. Miller or anyone else who is interested in Pedestrian safety to join ASTM Committee F-13 "Safety and Traction for Footwear" and get involved in current tribometric technology. The notion that nothing has changed in tribometry since 1972 is simply not true. There has been more progress in tribometry in the past decade than in prior history. Mr. Miller could get up to speed on the science by reading the current literature and by joining and attending F13. regards Keith Vidal, P.E. </pre>    <hr> </body> </html>